Randomising 3 different types of trials

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• cvanbuck

  June 13 edited June 13

  Hi @shaza

  What do you mean when you say that the 'run if' function doesn't work? Have you tried [count_trial_sequence]/20 == 1? (constraint to add on your items for the catch/distractor trials)

  I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to achieve, but the solution may depend on how many unique audio files you have for the experimental trial and whether you want them to be randomised within or between blocks. It may also depend on whether these experimental trial audio files are different from the ones presented during the catch and distractor trials.

  If you could provide a sample of your experiment (or even better, your experiment file), it would be much clearer what you are trying to achieve.

  Best,

  Claire

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• shaza

  June 15 edited June 15

  Hi Claire! @cvanbuck

  All 264 of my audio files (240 target trials, 12 catch trials, 12 filler trials) are unique. I don't have an experiment file because I don't know how to set it up. The [count_trial_sequence == n] does a good job at breaking the catch/distractor loop but I can't get it to go back to the target trials.

  To make it clearer, all trials are unique. Each block will have 120 target trials + 6 catch trials (1 after every 20 target trials) + 6 filler trials (1 after every catch trial). All trials are randomly picked from a list of 240 target trials, 12 catch trials, and 12 filler trials. Basically: target trial x20 > catch trial x1 > filler trial x1 > target trial x20 > catch trial x1 > filler trial x1 > ...

  I don't know if all 240 target trials should be placed in the same loop, but if yes, I don't know how to make the software randomly pick half for Block 1 and half for Block 2.

  Next, I don't know if catch trials and filler trials belong to a separate loop from the target trials because 1) one catch trial (randomly picked) appears after every 20 target trials and 2) one filler trial appears after every one catch trial.

  I hope this makes it clearer!!
• shaza

  June 16 edited June 16

  I found a temporary solution where I don't even split them up into separate blocks. I did a mock-up of 24 unique target trials, 4 catch trials and 4 filler trials with similar rules, i.e. Block 1 consists of 2 sets of 6 target trials followed by 1 catch trial and 1 filler trial, followed by a feedback and a break while Block 2 consists of 2 sets of 6 target trials followed by 1 catch trial and 1 filler trial, followed by a feedback and the end of the experiment. For this one, I didn't randomise the trials as a sanity check. For actual experiment I'll have to randomise within each loop.

  draft_20250616.osexp

  I'm not sure if this the best way for the 240 target trials, but if anyone can help me streamline this a bit more that'd be super helpful :)
• cvanbuck

  June 16

  Hi @shaza

  Here is a slightly modified version of your experiment, which should work as expected even for 240 target trials. If you add your full set of stimuli, you just need to adjust the 'run if' conditions in the 'target_sequence' sequence to indicate:

  • the number of trials before the 'catch_sequence' and 'filler_sequence' items are presented (currently every 6 target trials, which you might want to replace by 20)
  • the number of trials in a block, so the number of trials before the 'break' and 'feedback' items are presented (currently 12 target trials, which you might want to replace by 120 in your full version).

  If you only present each audio once, you can set the main_loop value 'n_repeat' to one (so, only one row).

  draft_20250616-V2.osexp

  Hope this helps!

  Claire

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• shaza

  June 17

  Hi @cvanbuck

  Thank you for this!! It works :) I just added another sketch board in case they missed all the catch trials.