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Hi Lea!
What type of path do you use in your experiments: relative like "lib/survey.js" or absolute like "/study_assets/my-exp-folder/survey.js". I guess it is the later and then the easiest solution is to switch to a relative path. But you have to switch in all paths with all HTML, JavaScript, CSS, images etc.
E.g.
If you have right now:
you'd have to change this to
Best,
Kristian
Hi Lea, hi Kristian,
thanks to you both for taking this apart! Over on the
lab.js
support channel, we discussed this in a bit more detail -- specifically, if the relative paths are a better idea, I'd be happy to change how our export function sets the paths, but Lea (if I understood correctly) tested this and found that the files were served with an incorrect mime type (alwaystext/html
), which broke importing scripts and styles.Kristian, what would you suggest? I'd be glad to implement JATOS best practices, and this looks like an easy fix (we use relative paths in all other exports).
Thanks again to you both, and many kind regards,
-Felix
Hi Felix and Kristian,
I'm not sure what the mime types mean, but it only didn't work for me when I used the exported folder structure. It worked well for me when I
So could the problem with the mime type be due to the folder hierarchy?
Thanks for all your effort!
Lea
... but this might be a completely different problem. So to summarize: I think it should work without problems with the relative paths in the export! :D
Thanks so much, @Lea, for your update! That was enormously helpful -- I hadn't (and probably still haven't) fully grokked what's going on; you know JATOS a lot better than I do. π
There's still some points I'm not quite sure about, if you can spare a moment to clarify (hoping you haven't addressed this already):
lab.js
export provides? (it sounds like you might be moving the study from a subdirectory to a superordinate one, I'm not sure)Ok, that's what I'm still wondering about. @kri, if you could confirm that there are no issues with using relative paths for study assets, I'd be happy to try an implementation.
Kind regards,
-Felix
Hi Felix,
yes, I moved the files from the subfolder to the main folder after exporting - but I am not sure this is necessary because the direct export/import usually works in JATOS (at least locally).
And yes, the jsPsych example study always works. On my local JATOS, there is no basepath, so there is no problem with absolute vs. relative paths. So everything (lab.js, jspsych...) should probably work locally.
I hope that answers your questions!
Best,
Lea
Hi Lea! Hi Felix!
The thing with the relative paths is, although they are much handier and less error prone, they are only supported since JATOS 3.3.1. If you use relative paths and import your study into an old JATOS < 3.3.1 then it will not work.
@mezzopiano But I just checked: 3.3.1 was released on Jun 17, 2018 and the current version is 3.5.8. Maybe it's time to give up backwards compatibility and switch to relative paths? But this decision I'll leave to Felix. And unfortunately I have no information if and how many JATOS servers out there are using older versions < 3.3.1.
And then about the 'incorrect mime type (always
text/html
)': I just checked and they all content-type headers seemed to be fine. Can you give me an example how to replicate this?Best,
Kristian
Thanks a lot, Kristian, for your update and sleuthing! We started supporting JATOS around version 3.3, which is likely where the scripts come from (I should read your changelogs more carefully π).
I'd be happy to move to relative paths, and have a local version that implements that. For the study files, this is no issue, but what I'm not clear on is how to link to
jatos.js
via relative path -- the JATOS docs use an absolute path, and @Lea, the jsPsych example you sent assumes that the file is directly in the experiment folder. Is that a given?Kristian, if you could comment on that briefly that would be massively helpful, and if you could provide a heads-up with regard to studies needing to be in a subdirectory (right now, we generate a file
$study_name.jas
and the associated directory$study_name
, both of which result in issues sometimes because we need to generate that name, and if I'm not mistaken it should be consistent, but also unique per study?).A heartfelt thanks again to both of you, this has been among the most amazing support conversations I've had this year! π€πβοΈ
-Felix
Hi Felix!
Let me answer your 2 questions:
but what I'm not clear on is how to link to
jatos.js
via relative pathjatos.js get a special treatment in JATOS since its JATOS' own library. The relative path that works since 3.3.1 is:
and the absolute path before 3.3.1 is:
We should probably update the JATOS docs to use the relative path everywhere by now.
regard to studies needing to be in a subdirectory (right now, we generate a file
$study_name.jas
and the associated directory$study_name
, both of which result in issues sometimes because we need to generate that name, and if I'm not mistaken it should be consistent, but also unique per study?).It is still like that: within the .jzip file (which is just a zip file) must be a subdirectory with a unique name that includes all your study assets (HTML, JavaScript, CSS, images etc) and a .jas file that describes the study in JSON format. The only thing that changed here is that you can now use relative paths in your HTML and JavaScript and don't have to specify the subdirectory anymore. So instead of e.g.
you can just write
You still have to specify the sub-subdirectories of course ('lib' in the example).
Best,
Kristian
Hi Felix & Kristian,
this is great!
I think the problem with the subfolder was rather due to the fact that I didn't import the study but created a new one (after I changed the paths). So I think you can just ignore everything I wrote about that, Felix. So I think the only thing that needs to be changed is the paths in the html. Let me know if you still need someone to test it, I'd be happy to do so on our server.
(And the jatos path is exatly what worked for me after a short trial-and-error phase.)
Thanks a lot!
Lea
Hi @Lea, hi @kri,
thanks soo much you two, for the clarifications and feedback, this is awesome! π The fix is now in, and should be online in the beta version (and soon-ish in stable). Lea, if you can spare a moment to export your study from there and try it in your JATOS installation (I've already tested on the COVID server), that would be awesome.
(as a quick word of warning concerning our beta, please note that we update the experiment file format in the latest release, so while you're welcome to use the development version and your studies should upgrade automatically, please be aware of the fact that you'll need to continue work with that version).
Ok, so much real quick. Thanks again, and a great new week to you both! π€
-Felix
Hi Felix, it works like a charm! π Thanks so much!
Sure thing @Lea, my pleasure π