using cursor_roi

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• eduard

  January 2020

  Hi,

  I am not an expert on the mousetrap plugin, but I think if you don't have named objects on a sketchpad, you can't use the cursor_roi. @Pascal can you give us some insight here?

  
  

  Eduard

  
• mariosav

  January 2020

  Hi Eduard and thanks for the response. I didn't realize that coursor_roi uses the mousetrap plugin. I'm not using that plugin at all, just some simple code to use the mouse. Also, how can you name anything on a sketchpad?? If I draw a square on a sketchpad, does it have a name? I only see a line of code that draws a square!
• Pascal

  January 2020 edited January 2020

  Hi,

  you can name elements on the sketchpad by selecting the corresponding element and then entering a value in the name field that is displayed in the row above the sketchpad preview (the default value is auto, i.e., unspecified I think).

  Once you've done that, the name argument will be displayed in the OpenSesame script of the element, e.g.:

  draw rect color=white fill=0 h=160 name=myrectangle1 penwidth=1 show_if=always w=320 x=-448 y=-256 z_index=0

  If you want to do mouse-tracking via the mousetrap plugin, I would recommend that you draw the elements separately using two rect elements, name them (as described above) and then use a mousetrap_response item to implement the mouse-tracking and react to the clicks on the rectangles.

  The mousetrap-os item is documented here: https://github.com/PascalKieslich/mousetrap-os

  A preprint of a book chapter that includes a tutorial can be found here: https://psyarxiv.com/zuvqa/

  However, the cursor_roi procedure should also work once you've named the elements.

  Best,

  Pascal
• mariosav

  January 2020

  Dear Pascal,

  Thank you very much for this! It makes sense now. I'll try out the mousetrap plugin as well and read the preprint.

  Cheers,

  marios
• mariosav

  January 2020

  Hi Pascal,

  First off, I should say that the chapter is fantastic. Thanks for sharing. Now, I have installed mousetrap and tried to use the mousetrap_response item after a sketchpad but I get an unexpected error when I run the experiment (AttributeError: 'Xpyriment' object has no attribute 'w'). I tried different backends but I get the same thing. I attach a screeenshot with the debug window.

  Also, is there a way to have more than 4 buttons as options? For this experiment I'm not so much interested in tracking. I just want to know which box was clicked (out of hopefully 9-10 boxes).

  mousetrapError.JPG

  
  
• Pascal

  January 2020

  Hi Marios,

  I think the problem is that the mousetrap plugin only supports rect elements. If you inserted the buttons as pictures, you would have to draw an additional rect element around them and label this element to get the click in the respective area of interest (AOI). More than four buttons are possible if you use the Python implementation of the plugin (see mousetrap_response_python.osexp example at https://github.com/PascalKieslich/mousetrap-os/tree/master/examples#example-experiments). But if you are not interested in the mouse movements and want to use the pictures, then you could also probably try using the cursor_roi implementation of OpenSesame - I think this implementation should also support pictures as AOIs.

  Best

  Pascal
• mariosav

  January 2020

  Pascal, me again. I have redrawn the buttons and it now works. Don't know what was wrong before but now it's fine. The only thing now is whether there is a workaround in terms of the numbers of buttons I can have. Any ideas?

  Thanks,

  marios
• mariosav

  January 2020

  Thanks for your response Pascal. We must have been writing at the same time and saw it after I posted mine. I will try the Python implementation as I know I will be using the Mousetrap plugin for other experiments that will require mouse tracking. About the cursor_roi implementation....I have no idea how to use it. That was in fact my initial post. I just can't find any example of that anywhere. You can see my inline script attached on my first post which shows how I use the mouse. But, no idea how to use cursor_roi and it seems to me that there's a straightforward way!

  m
• sebastiaan

  January 2020

  Hi Marios,

  Te cursor_roi functionality is unrelated to Mousetrap (although Mousetrap uses it). Here's a simple video tutorial that should show you the basics of how it works!

  https://youtu.be/K2dcG_7Hs3Y

  Cheers,

  Sebastiaan

  
  
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• mariosav

  January 2020

  Thanks Sebastiaan. That was even more simple than I thought!

  m
• sebastiaan

  January 2020

  Good to hear!

  
  
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• cicek

  October 2020

  Hi,

  I can use cursor roi when I set my variables in logger. However when I run the experiment in online I can not see cursor roi names in Jatos results. it says cursor_roi is ''null'. Can you help me?

  Thank you very much
• sebastiaan

  October 2020 edited November 2020

  Hi @cicek ,

  This functionality is simply not supported in OSWeb at the moment:

  • https://osdoc.cogsci.nl/3.3/manual/osweb/osweb/#supported-functionality

  As an alternative, depending on what exactly you want to do, you can either simply look at the mouse coordinates (cursor_x and cursor_y ) or write an inline_javascript item that determines which element the participant clicked on based on a) where the participant clicked, and b) where the stimuli were shown on the sketchpad .

  Not as convenient, but definitely possible!

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