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Hi,
If a "self-paced reading task" boils down to presenting screens with text many times after each other in the pace of the participant pressing a button or a key, you can simple you use
text_form_display
items. Write your text into these forms and tell your participants that they should press theOK button
to proceed to the next page.You can have a look on the forms in general to get an idea of how it works.
Give it a try, if you need help, you post your specific question here again.
Good luck,
Eduard
Hi,
thank you Eduard for your response.
I'll try to explain better myself.
I need to test reaction reading time within sentences. I need the program to present different sequences of a sentence in response to the pressing of a button by the subject.
For example, the sentence "John eat meat" is going to be presented by mean of three sequences. Each sequence corresponds to the prevoius one plus an element:
1. John
2. John eat
3. John eat meat.
Simplyfying, each time the subject presses a button she gets the following word.
This way, reading times for each (in this case) word are tested, since the subject press a button to get the next sequence.
My temporary solution consists in using .jpg files containing already cutted sequences, although it requires a lot of time because each sequence of each sentence consists of one .jpg file.
From a corpus of sentences, given the points of cutting, how can I tell to OpenSesame how manage the administration of stimuli?
Thank you very much!
Silvia
Hi Silvia,
Now I understand better. Thanks for the explanation. Well, the solution to this problem depends a lot on how you have saved all the sentences. If you all have them as a ".jpg" file, I can't think of a smart way that requires not too much work-arounds. I think the easiest option would be, if you had the sentences in a ".txt" file, with one sentence per line. First thing to do then is reading this file and saving the strings to a nice list. You can adapt following code in an
inline_script
.You can put this script in the beginning of your experiment, because you need the file read only once. After that you start your
loop
, in which every iteration picks one sentence.Now you can add another
inline_script
to yoursequence
, in which split the current sentence into its pieces (so far it has been a long string, e.g. 'John eats meat'). This will again give you a list with every word as an entry:Next. you add another
loop
with asequence
containing aninline_script
and asketchpad
. In this sequence you will loop over each word, add it to thepresented_sequence
and show it then via thesketchpad
.When doing this you should keep following things in mind:
inline_scripts
(especially the last one), put the code in theprepare phase
Alright, I hope this helps, if you need more help later, just ask again.
Good luck,
Eduard
Hi Eduard,
thanks a lot!!!
I am going to apply your wonderful suggestions immediately.
Silvia
Hi Eduard, Hi Silviark,
I am also currenty working on a very similar experiment. I will try your solutions too, so thank you for these answers.
But I wanted to ask that, I have my sentences in an Excel file, and in my case every sentence should be presented next to a picture: so participants will think a person (picture) says the sentence. I am thinking of using your suggested method, but I am not sure how can I trick Opensesame to pull the corresponding picture to the corresponding sentence, and then make it present in the same way one word at a time. I am new to OpenSesame, and I came kind of so far but I am stuck here. I would be really glad for your help.
PS: I have variable codes for everything: say if my Speaker 1 is A, she will say the sentence coded 00, or Speaker 2 will need to have the sentence 01. They are all in the Excel files.
Best,
Hülya
Hi Hulya,
One way of doing it is giving the files the same names (except the ending of course). Like that, you can code the name in the loop table and load the corresponding variables. Presenting pictures next to the text is not particularly hard. The procedure that I described above is primarily relevant for generating the sentences step-by step. The actual presentation on a sketchpad is straightforward. You just need to draw an image and a text item (at a different location).
Does that make sense?
Eduard
Hi Eduard,
Thank you very much for your answer!
Yes, I am able to make them in the sketchpad as you said, so that is okay. But I think I couldn't explain the main problem, so I will try:
I have 4 pictures that will be assigned to 160 sentences. And those are all randomized in an Excel file beforehand, so the lists are ready. So I was wondering if I need to draw every one of them one by one in the sketchpads, that is going to take so long and kind of feels like bad practice... Therefore I was wondering if I can make my sequence grab the picture names and their assigned sentences automatically into one sketchpad, and follow the sequence in the Excel file. So what I want to do is: Picture 1 with sentence 150, picture 2 with sentence 35, picture 4 with sentence 60, picture 3 with sentence 63, picture 2 with sentence 23.... and loop like this until the end of the list. (and they are going to be self-paced reading so picture needs to stay while words are shown one by one with the button press). Can I say, to the table in OpenSesame, the variable names; and copy-paste my Excel list there, and just draw [pic_variable_name] and [sentence_codes] in one sketchpad to do this?
I am sorry if I am being confusing...because I am confused too...
Best,
Hülya
Hello!
I solved the problem, apparently I could do it :) Thank you!
Best,
Hülya
Very nice!
Hi,
I would like to transform an older E-Prime self-paced reading study of mine into an OSWeb study to test subjects online. However, my sentences are not seperated by words, but in chunks of phrases + the critical phrase has to be marked, so your approach with the script wouldn't work in my case (I think).
I have the sentences in an Excel format and how it worked in E-Prime, was that I had the text in the loop and there was a column for 'Phrase 1', then 'Phrase 2', 'target -1' 'target', 'target+1', 'Phrase 3'...'Last Phrase' and basically like this it would go from one phrase to the other, if a phrase was empty, I could put in the sequence that it would jump to 'target -1' and if after the target there was an empty phrase it would jump to 'last phrase', which is quite relevant as the sentences differed sometimes with respect to the number of phrases. With this approach I could also randomize the sentences.
Is it possible to do this in the same way in OpenSesame?
Thank you!!
Hi @Joanna_RUG ,
Yes, this is certainly possible. How about the following procedure?
block_loop
the same way that you did in E-Prime, that is, by having separate columns for Phrase 1, Phrase2, Target_minus_1 (note that column names do not take hypens), etc. If a phrase is empty, simply leave the cell empty:loop
-sequence
structure to your trial_sequence. In this nestedloop
, you (re-)define the content of the phrases. However, you do not have to use the absolute values (that is, the actual words) again, you can simply refer to the previously defined variables by using the square-bracket syntax
, like so:loop
, in contrast to the block_loop
, is set to "sequential".sketchpad
, you prepare the differentsketchpad
contents for each cycle separately. For example, on the first cycle, thesketchpad
should only show the very first chunk of text. Therefore, the correspondingsketchpad script
will look as follows:(Make sure that you set
center
to 0, such that the sentence always starts at the same x position, regardless of how long it is.)show-if
statement to this line of script, saying that it should only be shown if[phrase_counter] = 1
:[phrase_counter] = 2
asshow-if
statement:Etc.
Finally, to make sure that participants don't have to press a button if the current text chunk is empty, add the following
Run-if
statement for thesketchpad
andkeyboard_response
items in thesequence
:I hope all this helps. I uploaded an example script containing two sentences. Just let us know if you have any further questions!
Cheers,
Lotje
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Dear Lotje,
thank you so much for your detailed answer and help! I saw your reply only now and will try it out these days and let you know!!
Cheers,
Joanna
Hi @Joanna_RUG ,
Good luck and keep us posted.
Cheers,
Lotje
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Hi Lotje,
so, I tried your example file, however, it worked offline, but not in OSWeb.
I also looked at my old self-paced reading task in E-Prime again and saw that only the currently read part of the sentence was shown and the rest of the sentence
was masked with dashes. Is this also possible with OS? I attach a screenshot and a copy of the E-Prime script, I think that probably helps...
Thank you in advance...
Joanna
Hi @Joanna_RUG ,
I tried your example file, however, it worked offline, but not in OSWeb.
That's probably because there was a bug in the previous version of OSWeb. I think when you update, everything will run correctly.
Regarding the dashes: Ok, so this changes the design quite a bit from what I understood from your initial description. The new design requires some
inline
scripting. And, because you are running your study online, the language in which we are going to program is JavaScript (instead of Python, with which OpenSesame normally works).I'm not able to run E-Prime scripts, but I think the following should work. (There are no doubt more elegant ways to do this, but I'm not in expert in JavaScript myself yet...)
inline_javascript
item in the trial_sequence
of your experiment (in thePrepare
tab):loop
item that is nested in the trial_sequence
(in my example called "self_paced_reading_loop
") like so:square-bracket
syntax to show the current sentence in asketchpad
item like so:I uploaded a new example script. Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Lotje
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