[solved] collecting mouse and keyboard response while showing stimuli

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• stefanog73

  March 2012 edited 8:00PM

  I forgot to say that in each trial, if there are not 3 or more rectangles of the same color, the subject should not press any key, and if there is not a colon in the text line, the subject should not click on the mouse button. In other words, each of the possible responses (keystroke and mouseclick) should be given if and only if the corresponding target is present.
• sebastiaan

  March 2012 edited 8:00PM

  Hi Stefano,

  Right, you can certainly do this. It would require a bit of inline-code, but nothing overwhelming. But I was thinking (just a suggestion, perhaps you have good reasons for the paradigm as is) that the paradigm could be simplified a bit. What if you just define 4 keys, say like so:

  • z : rectangles present, colon present
  • x : rectangles present, colon absent
  • n : rectangles absent, colon absent
  • m : rectangles absent, colon present

  If you decide to do it like this, you would always have one single response to each display, and you could use a single keyboard-response. The only thing that remains then, would be to pad the 1500ms using inline code (so that the display doesn't disappear when the participant presses a key) with an inline_script like this:

  self.sleep(1500-self.get('response_time'))

  Does this make sense?

  So that would be an option. If you don't think this is a good idea, could you please describe in more detail how you would like to handle responses? More specifically, is the participant allowed to press both the mouse and the key at any time, or is there a fixed order: first the key, than the mouse, or vice versa?

  Cheers,
  Sebastiaan

  
  
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• stefanog73

  March 2012 edited January 2014

  Hi Sebastiaan,

  thanks for your prompt reply! I had thought initially about a solution like the one you suggested, but I discarded it for design reasons. In fact, I want the two tasks to be more separate, and independent among each other, and doing like you say would be like having a single task, with 4 possible responses to memorize, thus more complicated than two simple "press/click-if-target-is present" tasks. I have tried to code the inline script below, and I get a syntax error at the line in which I call self.time() and can't go forward. In any way I'm also starting to figure out why (syntax error aside) this algorithm can't work: I guess that is because once you call a keyboard() function, the program start waiting, and so you can't immediately after call a mouse() function!. So we could at least simplify to have the user only use keyboard to express responses, allowing him to do it twice in each trial (in case the target is present in both tasks), regardless of the order of responses.

      ___run__
      from openexp.keyboard import keyboard
      from openexp.mouse import mouse
  
      timeout = 1500
      start_time = self.time()
  
      my_keyboard = keyboard(self.experiment, timeout= timeout)
      #my_mouse = mouse(self.experiment,  timeout= timeout) 
  
      my_keyboard.flush()
  
      # show stimuli
      self.c.show() 
      key = None
  
      if ! my_mouse.flush():
          click = None
  
      elapsed_time = 0
      while  elapsed_time <1500:
          while key == None | click= None:
  
          if key == None:
              key, key_end_time = my_keyboard.get_key()
          if click == None:
              click, position, click_end_time = my_mouse.get_click()
  
          elapsed_time = self.time() - start_time
  
      # response checking for both tasks
  
      if self.experiment.get("correct_response") == "a":
          if key == None:
              self.experiment.set("task1_correct", 1)
  
          else:
              self.experiment.set("task1_correct", 0)
  
      else:
          if key == "space":
              self.experiment.set("task1_correct", 1)
  
          else:
              self.experiment.set("task1_correct", 0)
  
      if self.experiment.get("virgola") == 0:
          if mouse == None:
              self.experiment.set("task2_correct", 1)
  
          else:
              self.experiment.set("task2_correct", 0)
  
      else:
          if mouse == "space":
              self.experiment.set("task2_correct", 1)
  
          else:
              self.experiment.set("task2_correct", 0)
  
      self.experiment.set("response_risposta_tastiera", my_keyboard.to_chr(key))
      self.experiment.set("response_risposta_mouse", mouse)
  
      # interstimolo
      self.sleep(250)
  
      __end__
      ___prepare__
      from openexp.canvas import canvas
  
      # richiama dal loop i colori dei quadrati ed il testo
      colore1=self.experiment.get("color1")
      colore2=self.experiment.get("color2")
      colore3=self.experiment.get("color3")
      colore4=self.experiment.get("color4")
      testo=self.experiment.get("testo")
  
      #prepara gli stimoli
      self.c = self.offline_canvas()
      self.c.set_font(mono,  24)
      self.c.rect(288, -200, 192, 192, fill=True, color=colore1)
      self.c.rect(-224, -200 , 192, 192, fill=True, color=colore2)
      self.c.rect(-480, -200, 192, 192, fill=True, color=colore3)
      self.c.rect(32, -200, 192, 192, fill=True, color=colore4 )
      self.c.text( testo, center=True, color=white)
      __end__
      set description "Executes Python code"
  
  

  Please let me know what you think and thank you a lot for your precious help (and for OpenSesame in general too!)

  Stefano
• sebastiaan

  March 2012 edited 8:00PM

  Hi Stefano,

  From what I can tell from the code, you're almost there. The only real problem appears to be the timeout. You now pass '1500' as a timeout to the keyboard and mouse classes. This means that get_key() and get_click() will block for 1500ms before returning a timeout.

  What you actually want to do is set the timeout really low, to say 5ms. This way the keyboard and mouse can be polled intermittently, if you understand what I mean. Because you have a while loop that blocks for 1500ms (while elapsed_time <1500:) you will still have a 1500ms timeout, even though the timeout for each individual call of get_key() and get_click() is much lower.

  Regarding the error: I don't see a syntax error in the line that says:
  

  elapsed_time = self.time() - start_time

  Is it maybe an indentation issue or something?

  Good luck,
  Sebastiaan

  
  
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• stefanog73

  March 2012 edited January 2014

  Hi Sebastiaan,

  thanks to your advice now I'm almost there! The only part of the script that doesn't seem to work is at the end of the run phase, when I want to clear the canvass and wait for 250ms before moving to the next trial. Any ideas about why the code I wrote is not working?

      ___run__
      from openexp.keyboard import keyboard
      from openexp.mouse import mouse
  
      timeout = 5
  
      my_keyboard = keyboard(self.experiment, timeout= timeout)
      start_time = self.time()
      my_mouse = mouse(self.experiment,  timeout= timeout) 
      my_keyboard.flush()
  
      # show stimuli
      self.c.show() 
  
      key = None
      if my_mouse.flush() == False:  click = None
  
      elapsed_time = 0
  
      while  elapsed_time <1500:
          if key == None:
              key, key_end_time = my_keyboard.get_key()
          if click == None:
              click, position, click_end_time = my_mouse.get_click()
          elapsed_time = self.time() - start_time
  
      # response checking for both tasks
      if self.experiment.get("correct_response") == "a":
          if key == None:
              self.experiment.set("task1_correct", 1)
          else:
              self.experiment.set("task1_correct", 0)
      else:
          if key == "space":
              self.experiment.set("task1_correct", 1)
          else:
              self.experiment.set("task1_correct", 0)
      if self.experiment.get("virgola") == 0:
          if click == None:
              self.experiment.set("task2_correct", 1)
          else:
              self.experiment.set("task2_correct", 0)
      else:
          if click == 1:
              self.experiment.set("task2_correct", 1)
          else:
              self.experiment.set("task2_correct", 0)
  
      #
      self.c.clear()#
      self.experiment.sleep(250)
      self.experiment.set("response_risposta_tastiera", my_keyboard.to_chr(key))
      self.experiment.set("response_risposta_mouse", click)
      __end__
      ___prepare__
      from openexp.canvas import canvas
  
      # richiama dal loop i colori dei quadrati ed il testo
      colore1=self.experiment.get("color1")
      colore2=self.experiment.get("color2")
      colore3=self.experiment.get("color3")
      colore4=self.experiment.get("color4")
      testo=self.experiment.get("testo")#
  
      self.c = self.offline_canvas()#
  
      self.c.set_font("Mono",24)#
  
      self.c.rect(288, -200, 192, 192, True, colore1)
      self.c.rect(85, 20, 192, 192, True, colore1)
      self.c.rect(307, 20 , 192, 192, fill=True, color=colore2)
      self.c.rect(527, 20, 192, 192, fill=True, color=colore3)
      self.c.rect(749, 20, 192, 192, fill=True, color=colore4 )
      self.c.text( testo, center=True, color="white")
      __end__
      set description "Executes Python code"
  

  Thank you again a lot for your help!

  Have a nice weekend
  Stefano
• sebastiaan

  March 2012 edited 8:00PM

  Hi Stefano,

  Yep. self.c.clear() only clears the offline canvas (self.c), but does not update the display. So you would have to do a self.c.show() as well in order to show the cleared canvas (effectively blanking the screen).

  Of course, you could also just insert a 250ms blank sketchpad after the inline_script. That would save you the (small) trouble of scripting.

  Cheers,
  Sebastiaan

  
  
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• stefanog73

  March 2012 edited 8:00PM

  Ok now I get it, thanks. In the meantime, however, I had already done what you were suggesting, inserting a blank sketchpad after the inline script :-) But thank you so much anyway!

  Best,
  Stefano