[open] Experiment interrupted on Android tablet

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• sebastiaan

  September 2015 edited 11:39PM

  Hi Heidi,

  It looks like you're playing back sound files through an inline_script. Is that correct? I'm guessing that you just keep opening new files, without closing the old ones, and that this eventually results in the 'too many open files' error. But I cannot say for sure without more details. Could you provide some more info, including the actual script?

  Cheers,
  Sebastiaan

  
  
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• hmarteli

  September 2015 edited September 2015

  Hi Sebastiaan!

  I'm playing the sound files through the loop and sequence items, and when the initial response is wrong, the same task is repeated with the following inline script:

  if self.get('correct') == 0:
      exp.items["Parent1Parent2_Seq"].prepare()
      exp.items["Parent1Parent2_Seq"].run()
  

  So then it might be that the reason the experiment sometimes does work properly actually has to do with how many errors a participant has made (if only the files opened through the inline script are left open)? Do you need further information about the experiment? We discussed the inline script here in case it helps: http://forum.cogsci.nl/index.php?p=/discussion/1509/solved-random-presentation-of-pictures-and-words-in-an-experiment#Item_6

  Cheers,

  Heidi
• sebastiaan

  September 2015 edited 11:39PM

  Hi Heidi,

  So you play the sound with a regular sampler item, but use an inline_script to repeat the whole sequence when an error occurs. Right? If so, that seems like a valid approach.

  So then it might be that the reason the experiment sometimes does work properly actually has to do with how many errors a participant has made (if only the files opened through the inline script are left open)?

  I agree; something like that seems to be going on.

  Do you need further information about the experiment?

  This sounds like a bug in pygame or, on Android, pgs4a (pygame subset for Android), which is what OpenSesame uses for sound playback. To get to the bottom of this, it would be useful if you could do some tests to find out:

  • Whether you can indeed reliably trigger the error by making lots of mistakes.
  • If so, whether this happens only on Android, or also on a normal computer.

  Cheers,
  Sebastiaan

  
  
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• hmarteli

  September 2015 edited 11:39PM

  Hi!

  Yes exactly so, I play the sound with a regular sampler item, but use an inline_script to repeat the whole sequence when an error occurs.

  On a normal PC there are no problems at all, and I can finish the experiment with a very large number of errors and it has never crashed. I did the following tests on the tab:

  1. When I answered all items correctly, the experiment finished properly.

  2. When I made lots of mistakes during the first 4 loops, the experiment crashed after I had answered the first item of the last loop correctly. So it seems that for some reason, regardless the amount of errors, the experiment never crashes before the last loop. Also, I got the same error information in the debug file, stating that there are too many open files to open the next sampler item (even if it wasn't run by the inline script).

  3. When I made no mistakes during the first 4 loops, the experiment crashed after 13 errors in the last loop (which is much less than the combined number of errors I made in the first loops in test 2 above). I'm wondering if there is something wrong with specifically the last loop..

  Here are versions of the experiment for PC and tab, the only difference between these two ought to be the response items (keyboard vs touch):

  https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9oPDmV1spDvfkpvZnhRa0JkYXRFeXdoRUQ5VEE2UlVPc1pCd0ZzWi1nVFhsRVVFT3F3ejA&usp=sharing

  Cheers,

  Heidi
• hmarteli

  September 2015 edited 11:39PM

  And one more thing, the touch version works with mouseclicks on PC without any problems!