[solved] Implementing a Slider

mpaullin

Hello,

I am hoping to run a study in OpenSesame where subjects will hear a speech sample and then use a slider to rate naturalness, intelligibility, etc. Does anyone have any insight on how I might to this. I have found python code that runs a slider widget (http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/scale.htm), but it does not work very well when I try to use the 'inline_script' function (the widget will pop up but you can only see it when you exit the experiment). Thank you in advance.

sebastiaan

Hi Mpaullin,

Welcome to the forum and thank you for your interest in OpenSesame!

The problem with using widgets (Tk, Qt, Gtk, and what have you) is that they typically draw on their own window, and not on the OpenSesame window. This is why you see the widget only after the experiment closes (and perhaps in a separate window if you don't run the experiment fullscreen?)

There are a number things you can do:

• The questionnaire plug-ins have a rating scale. If this suits your needs, this is probably the best and easiest way to go. http://osdoc.cogsci.nl/plug-ins/questionnaire-plug-ins

• If you really need a slider, you will basically have to program one in Python inline code. But this is not that hard to do. If you tell me specifically what you want to do, I can give you some pointers.

Hope this helps!

Kindest regards,
Sebastiaan

mpaullin

Thanks a lot for your helpful reply. I took a look at the rating scale plugin, and I'm afraid that it does not meet my needs. I'm looking for something that can give me a lot more variability, which is why a slider would work best. In the past we used a slider with about 200 underlying data points. I am not a programmer in any sense, so would appreciate any tips you may have for implementing a slider using python inline code. Thanks again

sebastiaan

Here's a small snippet that shows a mouse-controlled slider. You will probably want to modify it a bit, but hopefully it conveys the general idea. You can find more about the canvas functions (for drawing) here: http://osdoc.cogsci.nl/python-inline-code/canvas-functions

You will need to paste this code into the run phase of an inline script item. I've tested it with OpenSesame 0.25-pre9, but it should work with 0.24 as well.

from openexp.canvas import canvas
from openexp.mouse import mouse
my_canvas = canvas(self.experiment)
my_mouse = mouse(self.experiment, timeout=20)

# Set slider dimensions
slider_w = 500
slider_h = 10
slider_x = self.get("width")/2-slider_w/2
slider_y = self.get("height")/2-slider_h/2

while True:

    # Determine the slider fill based on the mouse position
    pos, time = my_mouse.get_pos()
    x, y = pos
    slider_fill = min(slider_w, max(0, x-slider_x))

    my_canvas.clear()
    # Draw some text (this can be anything)
    my_canvas.text("Question goes here", y=slider_y-100) 
    my_canvas.text("Click to accept ...", y=slider_y+100) 
    # Draw the slider frame
    my_canvas.rect(slider_x, slider_y, slider_w, slider_h)
    # Draw the slider fill
    my_canvas.rect(slider_x, slider_y, slider_fill, slider_h, fill=True)                
    # Draw the mouse cursor
    my_canvas.arrow(x+5, y+10, x, y)
    my_canvas.show()

    # Poll the mouse for buttonclicks
    button, position, timestamp = my_mouse.get_click(timeout = 20)
    if button != None:
        break
    
slider_percent = 100.0*slider_fill/slider_w     
self.experiment.set("slider_percent", slider_percent)

mpaullin

That worked beautifully. Thanks again for your help.

Edwin

This one's great, thanks a bunch! This could be a bit of a silly question, but I'm going to risk making a slight fool of myself: where can I adjust the colours of the text and maybe the background as well? Did I miss it in your code?

Thanks in advance!

Edwin

sebastiaan

Hi Edwin,

You can use either the set_fgcolor() and set_bgcolor() functions, which will affect all subsequent drawing operations, or pass the 'color' keyword for a single drawing operation. So the following (adapted from above) will give you a horribly coloured slider:

...
my_canvas.set_bgcolor('green')
my_canvas.clear()
# Draw some text (this can be anything) 
my_canvas.text("Question goes here", y=slider_y-100, color='blue') 
my_canvas.set_fgcolor('red')
my_canvas.text("Click to accept ...", y=slider_y+100) 
# Draw the slider frame
my_canvas.rect(slider_x, slider_y, slider_w, slider_h)
# Draw the slider fill
my_canvas.rect(slider_x, slider_y, slider_fill, slider_h, fill=True)                
# Draw the mouse cursor
my_canvas.arrow(x+5, y+10, x, y)
my_canvas.show()
...

For a complete list of canvas functions, see this page: http://osdoc.cogsci.nl/python-inline-code/canvas-functions

Hope this helps!

Regards,
Sebastiaan

Edwin

Hi Sebastiaan,
That seems to work, thanks a bunch!

pierreEmmanuel

Hi,

i am trying to make a slider working from keyboard keys RIGHT and LEFT, for say.
I cannot use the mouse as i am in the MRI scanner.
I dont find any way to distinguish the keyboard presses from their release (to smooth the slider movement).. is there one, somehow ?

Thanks
PE

MattC

Hi,

This code is just what we were looking for, but it's quite laggy at runtime (a few seconds, the mouse tends to be jumpy). Do you have any hints?

eduard

You can try different backends. Which one do you use right now?

Btw. the discussion here is rather old, which code did you use eventually? And did you have to tweak it?

Eduard

MattC

We're using xpyriment as the backend, and here is what we did with the code we're using:

my_canvas = canvas()
my_mouse = mouse(timeout=20)

# Set slider dimensions. This assumes that 0,0 is the display center, which is
# the default in OpenSesame >= 3.
slider_w = 500
slider_h = 10
slider_x = -slider_w/2
slider_y = -slider_h/2

while True:

    # Determine the slider fill based on the mouse position
    pos, time = my_mouse.get_pos()
    x, y = pos
    slider_fill = min(slider_w, max(0, x-slider_x))

    my_canvas.clear()
    # Draw some text (this can be anything)
    my_canvas.text("Please rate the text you just read on naturalness", y=slider_y-100) 
    my_canvas.text("Click to accept rating...", y=slider_y+100) 
    my_canvas.text("Most natural", x=slider_x+600)
    my_canvas.text("Least natural", x=slider_x-100)
    # Draw the slider frame
    my_canvas.rect(slider_x, slider_y, slider_w, slider_h)
    # Draw the slider fill
    my_canvas.rect(slider_x, slider_y, slider_fill, slider_h, fill=True)                
    # Draw the mouse cursor
    my_canvas.arrow(x+5, y+10, x, y)
    my_canvas.show()

    # Poll the mouse for buttonclicks
    button, position, timestamp = my_mouse.get_click()
    if button is not None:
        break

# Set the slider response as an experimental variable
var.slider_percent = 100.0*slider_fill/slider_w    

eduard

Hi,
Here an optimized version of the slider. Hope it is sufficient.

my_canvas = canvas()
my_mouse = mouse(timeout=20)
my_mouse.show_cursor(True)
# Set slider dimensions. This assumes that 0,0 is the display center, which is
# the default in OpenSesame >= 3.
slider_w = 500
slider_h = 10
slider_x = -slider_w/2
slider_y = -slider_h/2
my_canvas.text("Please rate the text you just read on naturalness", y=slider_y-100) 
my_canvas.text("Click to accept rating...", y=slider_y+100) 
my_canvas.text("Most natural", x=slider_x+600)
my_canvas.text("Least natural", x=slider_x-100)
# Draw the slider frame
my_canvas.rect(slider_x, slider_y, slider_w, slider_h)
lifeCanvas = canvas()
while True:

    # Determine the slider fill based on the mouse position
    pos, time = my_mouse.get_pos()
    x, y = pos
    slider_fill = min(slider_w, max(0, x-slider_x))

    lifeCanvas.clear()
    my_mouse.set_visible()

    lifeCanvas.copy(my_canvas)
    # Draw some text (this can be anything)


    # Draw the slider fill
    lifeCanvas.rect(slider_x, slider_y, slider_fill, slider_h, fill=True)                
    # Draw the mouse cursor
    lifeCanvas.show()

    # Poll the mouse for buttonclicks
    button, position, timestamp = my_mouse.get_click()
    if button is not None:
        break

# Set the slider response as an experimental variable
var.slider_percent = 100.0*slider_fill/slider_w    

Eduard

Dirk

Hi all,

I'm doing a mouse tracking experiment (with the Mousetrap plug-in) using the visual analogue scale (slider) based on the code above (by Eduard). Before that I used this code:

# import everything we need
from openexp.canvas import canvas
from openexp.mouse import mouse

# create the instances we need
my_canvas = canvas(self.experiment)
my_mouse = mouse(self.experiment, timeout=1)

# slider dimensions
slider_w = 500
slider_h = 10
slider_x = -slider_w/2
slider_y = -slider_h/2

# draw some text (this can be anything)
my_canvas.text("To what extent were your thoughts focused on or off the task just before this moment?<br><br>Please indicate a percentage where 100% indicates completely on-task and 0% completely off-task.", y=slider_y-200, font_size=30)
#draw options
my_canvas.text("0%<br>(Completely off-task)", y= slider_y+50, x= -250, )
my_canvas.text("100%<br>(Completely on-task)", y= slider_y+50, x= 250)
# draw the slider frame
my_canvas.rect(slider_x, slider_y, slider_w, slider_h)
# add a text below the bottom slider, telling participants to click to accept
my_canvas.text("Click your mouse to accept ...", y=slider_y+200) 

# keep showing the interactive slider until a click has been made
clicked = False
while not clicked:

    # determine the slider fill based on the mouse position
    pos, time = my_mouse.get_pos()
    x, y = pos
    slider_fill = min(slider_w, max(0, x-slider_x))
        # draw an empty rect within the slider frame, effectively resetting it
    my_canvas.rect(slider_x, slider_y, slider_w, slider_h, fill=True, color=self.get("background"))
        # draw the slider fill
    my_canvas.rect(slider_x, slider_y, slider_fill, slider_h, fill=True)
        # show the updated canvas
    my_canvas.show()
    # Poll the mouse for buttonclicks
    button, position, timestamp = my_mouse.get_click(timeout = 1)
    if button != None:
        clicked = True


# save the slider's filling
slider_percent = 100.0*slider_fill/slider_w  
exp.set("slider_percent", slider_percent)

However, with the code by Eduard, sometimes my stimuli do not show at random trials. When I used the code in this comment this didn't happen and it's the only thing I have changed.

So the stimuli do not show, but the buttons that I made with the Mousetrap plug-in at the same place of the stimuli are still clickable. The experiment then moves to the next trial and there the stimuli do show.

I really don't know if this is because of the change in code for the slider, but I hope someone can help me with this.

Best,

Dirk

sebastiaan

@Dirk This may be useful:

• http://forum.cogsci.nl/index.php?p=/discussion/4055/

EliseF

Hi

I'm totally new to open Sesame and Python and am putting together an experiment which will ask participants to rate the emotional intensity of a series of images. I'd like to use a slider instead of manually inputing a 1-9 scale. The optimised version posted above by Eduard works perfectly but is there any way to include the slider on the sketchpad I'm using to show the image and have the program advance to the next image when the mouse is clicked? I'd also like the slider to reset to zero each time, at the moment it stays at the same point as the previous response, which might tempt participants just to click in the same spot.

Any help would be gratefully received
thanks
Elise

sebastiaan

Hi @EliseF,

I would take a look at the same link that I suggested to Dirk above. This provides a slider widget that you can embed in a form, along with other widgets, such as images.

Cheers!
Sebastiaan

mikapita

Hi people,

I'm using the code recommended here for a slider in an experiment i'm building.

My problem is that it works perfectly well when I run it in window but when I try to run it in full screen the mouse won't run on the entire slider and would just kind of stay stuck around the midpoint of the scale.

Any ideas on how to fix this?

Thanks!

sebastiaan

HI @mikapita,

It sounds like the cursor position is reset to the center, which happens on systems when the cursor is hidden and then shown again. You can probably change this behavior by going to the backend settings (in the General Properties tab) and trying out different options under the Canvas backend.

Alternatively, you can take a look at the discussion below, which provides a more recent implementation of a slider widget.

• https://forum.cogsci.nl/discussion/4055/a-slider-widget-for-opensesame-3-2

Cheers!

Sebastiaan

lisalisa94

Visual Analog Scale (VAS) Fatigue.osexp

Hi everyone,

I have modified the inline script for slider according to my experiment, and it works very good.

But I still have difficulty to add/make timeout for this slider. In my experiment, the participant should press the slider within 10 seconds, or if they are not pressing the slider, the screen will change automatically after 10 seconds.

I attached the file here, please no need to pay attention to the text stimuli because the stimuli is in Indonesian language/is'nt in English).

I really hope someone can give help for this case.

eduard

Hi Lisa,

Attached your experiment, with a timeout added. I hope this helps,

Eduard

Visual Analog Scale (VAS) Fatigue.osexp

lisalisa94

I am grateful, the script works very good. Thanks a bunch Eduard!