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OpenSesame Portable 0.26.4
This version uses the no-SDL version of PyLink. This means there will be no more troubles with playing sounds. Although we tested furiously, we appreciate feedback if you do experience any problems.
OpenSesame Portable 0.27-pre30
This is the portable release of the newest pre-release version of OpenSesame 0.27. Expyriment is added to the site-packages, so the new back-end should run smoothly.
EDIT: updated to pre12
EDIT (26-10-2012): updated to pre18
EDIT (30-11-2012): updated to pre30
First of all, I would just like to say, what an awesome project this is. The portable edition is why I've persuaded my supervisor, that we should use OpenSesame in an upcoming experiment, instead of needing to install dependent libraries for running a matlab-coded experiment at a number of in campus computers. And second, it's really great that you're updating it this fast. Keep up the good work!
I've just downloaded the pre30 release, and found a bug. I'm using the new form widgets, and when I run the experiment, I get the following runtime error:
And, a lesser bug: the help icon seems to be missing.
Glad you like it!
Regarding the error, could you perhaps describe in detail what you did to trigger the error? Please also post the traceback that you can find in the debug window.
Well initially it did not reveal anything in the debug window. Only the above error message was displayed in a popup window. When i run OS with the --debug option on, I get the following lines in the debug window, when the same runtime error is displayed:
This also occurs with the other backends. [EDIT] Actually, it only occurs with legacy and psycho. xpyriment gives some unicode error, which probably isn't related to this.
So perhaps the error lies in initiating the canvas? Perhaps it's even related to the missing icon?
The experiment works in the standard pre 30 release, and I didn't do anything differently.
Hope that helps a bit
My guess is that you are using the form_base plug-in to create a custom form, right? Could you perhaps post the script for that item?
Yes I am. But it doesn't seem to be working for any of the form plugins, save for form_multiple_choice, and it doesn't seem to matter what the content is.
Just try the default template and add a form, and you should be able to replicate the error.
If not, then we know it's a problem with my setup
EDIT: Btw. I've tried the custom form example from the documentation area as an inline script, which works fine.
Jákup: Indeed, I tried a form in the Python portable package and it crashed as you described. The problem was due to a difference between Python 2.6 (used by the portable package) and 2.7 (used by the official packages). I fixed it, and as of 0.27~pre32, the forms should work with both versions of Python again.
Edwin: I think I will declare 0.27 'stable' really soon, which is the first version to use Python 2.7 by default. One thing that is a little unfortunate is that the media_player plug-in doesn't work with Python 2.7. Daniel is working on media_player_vlc, which I'll include with 0.27, but unfortunately there are still some issues with that plug-in.
Are you planning to stick with Python 2.6 for the portable package? If so, it might be good to bundle the media_player with Python portable (is it already, I can't remember?) so that people still have the option to use the media_player. There are installation instruction included with the README of the plug-in:
I just tested it (after downloading the pre32 source into the OpenSesame Portable folder and editing its batch file) and it works like a charm
And thank you very much for the fast update!
Actually, version 18.104.22.168 of Portable Python comes with many of the dependencies required by OpenSesame (Matplotlib, NumPy, PyGame, PyQt4, Python Image Library, and PySerial), so it can run out of the box with OpenSesame.
PsychoPy and PyOpenGL are missing (though they can easily downloaded and added as modules in Portable Python using the "python setup.py install" command), so only the legacy backend works readily. And, of course, PyLink isn't included either, given its proprietary status.
But, in sum, version 2.7 could make it much easier for you to maintain OpenSesame Portable Edwin
All the best!
Thanks for your comment! I appreciate the input.
What modules come standard with what version of Portable Python isn't really an issue, since it's not that hard to add them ourself. Besides, the distributions that we provide are completely equipped, meaning they run out of the box with OpenSesame anyhow.
Interestingly, very recently, we've had the same discussion in the 'OpenSesame team' and we think that there isn't really a strong advantage of using 2.7 over 2.6. That being said, Daniel did create a version of OpenSesame Portable using Portable Python 2.7.2 (see here).
Is there any way to edit the batch file so that it automatically finds the correct directory for whichever computer it's on? I'd ideally like to be able to send my experiment to some participants as a .zip file, but am unsure how this can be done without instructing each participant to edit the path themselves.
Thanks in advance!
Do you mean the run_opensesame batch file? This already automatically finds it's own directory. Basically, you could send anyone the opensesameportable-0.27.1.1-win32 folder (as a .zip, as you mention), include your own experiments (e.g. an experiment called 'awesome_experiment.opensesame.tar.gz') in the '*/user/Experiments' folder and include a batch file (in the main folder! opensesameportable-0.27.1-1-win32, where run_opensesame.bat is located as well) with the following content:
Data will be saved in the '*/user/Data' folder.
If you mean you would want to send just an OpenSesame experiment to your participants they wouldn't be able to run it, since you need OpenSesame (Run) to run .opensesame(.tar.gz) files.
Does this answer your question?
Thanks for your reply. I thought that I had to specify the destination in place of the '..', but now the batch file is running fine.
However, I am having another problem with running the actual experiment. When I run it through portable the experiment crashes when audio is first introduced. I receive the following error: "Attribute Error: 'module' object has no attribute 'Ellipse'". I noticed above you said that sound can cause OS to crash. Is there any way to get around this problem?
Great that it's running! It seems the error you mention originates from expyriment, or rather: the expyriment package included with OpenSesame Portable. I'll look into repackaging it. For now, you could fix your problem by switching to a different back-end.
As from today, OpenSesame Portable will no longer be based on Python 2.6 Portable. WinPython 2.7 (32bit) will be used in stead.
WinPython is a portable distribution of Python, as is Python Portable. The main difference is that WinPython is a far more complete package, that is especially designed for scientists. Included is Spyder, a rather complete code editor (my personal favourite!) that resembles the Matlab editor. Libraries that could aid researches (such as NumPy, SciPy and Matplotlib) are included as well.
The benefit of using WinPython over Python Portable is this completeness. I think this is a nice step forward, but I would appreciate any input you guys have!
This looks like a big improvement. Thanks!
It appears to me that the eyelink plugins were not included in portable version 0.27.2. Simply moving the right folders from an earlier version seems to work, but is there a reason for not including them in the new package? Also, when I try to run an experiment that uses the psychopy backend, I get: "canvas_error: Failed to import PsychoPy, probably because it is not (correctly) installed."
That's weird... Could you provide some system information? (primarily which version of Windows you're running).
I think I kind of forgot the eyelink plug-ins... Oops! I'll try to fix it as soon as possible, thanks for pointing this out! Your suggestion works, though. The portable version works the same as all the other versions: simply moving the plug-in folders to the 'plugins' folder of your OpenSesame should suffice to install them.
To get some more information about what goes wrong, you can also type the following commands into the OpenSesame debug window:
Both commands should return without giving any output or error message. (But they probably won't.)
Hi Edwin and Sebastiaan,
I'm using xp professional.
If I remove the import lines from my inline script, it still says this:
Thanks for the information! Regrettably, I can't seem to reproduce the error on a Win XP Pro machine here. I'm currently uploading a new version of the package, now running OpenSesame 0.27.3 with an updated PsychoPy (version 1.78.01). You can download it here, select OpenSesame 0.27.3 under 'WinPython'.
If this does not solve the problem, it looks like this is not a problem of just the PsychoPy version that comes along with the portable package, it seems to me as though it might be an interaction with your OS. Could it be that your .NET framework is not up to date?
Hello Edwin and Sebastian,
I've got WinPython 0.27.2 running on a lab computer. It works great and I'd like to thank you guys for creating such a convenient way to get OpenSesame up and running rapidly. I'm trying to set up an eye-tracking experiment with the EyeLink, and the experiment works fine in dummy mode, but when I try and run it with the tracker attached I get the following feedback in the debug mode:
To me, it looks like the problem starts all the way up at the beginning at this line:
libeyelink: failed to import pylink
I wonder if I need to go through any additional steps to get pylink ready to go that is not already done for me in WinPython?
Thanks for the help!
Ah, yesh, I see the problem. I'm updating the package; should be online somewhere in the next hour!
EDIT (13:35): fixed it. Could you try downloading the package again? direct download
P.S. The problem was in the pylink package. We used to use a bit of a weird version (no SDL), since the regular package somehow interacted with PyGame, causing weird crashes. I forgot that this was a specific package for Python 2.6, which worked perfectly with the former versions of OpenSesame Portable (based on Portable Python 2.6), but does not play nice with the version of WinPython we currently use to package OpenSesame with. I've updated the python version to one that is specifically meant for Python 2.7, so you shouldn't experience any more trouble.
Thanks Edwin! Things are working great now.
I need a text box for my experiment that implements word-processor-like behavior (e.g. mouse interaction with text). Sebastiaan suggested the following script:
This gives me an error like this:
Sebastiaan suggested then I try using Portable Python, so I installed the latest release, WinPython 2.7 version.
But it still gave me the same error, in the debug window it says"ERROR: avbin.dll failed to load" and suggests I import psychopy.visual as the first item, and also to make sure avbin is installed. So I then added "from psychopy import visual" as the first line of the script, but it still fails with the same error.
I downloaded the latest stable version of wxPython (wxPython2.8-win32-unicode-py27) and I tried installing it in my local C: Python directory. Then I copied every file to do with that (wx.pyc, wxversion.py, wx.pth and a folder called wx unicode something) from there into the OpenSesame0.27.1win32 main folder. When I try running my script now, with import wx as the first line, it now gives me a new error:
File "dist\psychopy\gui.py", line 12 Python traceback: AttributeError 'module' object has no attribute. Can you help? I know almost nothing about Python so I am probably doing something really stupid, sorry! Should I just be putting this in a different folder or something? Sebastiaan said normally you would install a python package by opening up a terminal window in the directory where you downloaded the package and running python setup.py install, I know how to do that on Mac but I'm on a Windows so I don't have Terminal. I could also maybe specify a directory under OpenSesame0.27.1win32 when I install wxPython using it's own installer GUI thing, but I'm not sure which directory to use (It wants you to choose a directory "On the Python path") and then I'm not sure what command I should use in my OpenSesame inline script item to actually call it up. Sorry for being a pain! Thanks so much for your help!!
The error you received initially (with the downloadable WinPython package) tells us the wxPython package is missing. I just checked the package and it seems this is indeed the case. This is important for you, as the gui module of PsychoPy relies on wxPython.
You can add the wxPython library to your WinPython package, but the procedure for this is a bit different from the usual procedure that you describe. The WinPython installation process actually is a tad easier than running setupscripts from a terminal
Go to the WinPython folder
Double-click on the program called WinPython Control Panel and wait for it to start up (it's portable software, so this can take a bit more time than you would usually expect)
Go to the 'Install/upgrade packages' tab
Click on the 'Add packages' button on the bottom left of the window
Browse and select the package that you want installed. This package can be an installer (usually .exe or .msi), or a source package (.zip or .tar.gz), or something else. Some of the installers and source packages can be used, some others can't. This depends on what the WinPython software can and cannot do, so you'll simply have to try every package that you have until it you've found a compatible one. For wxPython, I've tried the Windows installer and the source package: the installer doesn't work, and the source package doesn't either.
Since both our options did not work, we'll have to manually install the software anyway. We'll do this in the same fashion you'd normally install a package with a setup script, although we wouldn't want to use our own Python installation for that, but the python.exe that came along with WinPython. However, I've tested this, and it doesn't work either.
At this point, I'd be getting royally ticked off. If you feel the same way, you could opt for the lame solution. This would come down to installing a new 32-bit Python 2.7 on a Windows machine. Then install wxPython, using the installer: http://sourceforge.net/projects/wxpython/files/wxPython/22.214.171.124/wxPython2.9-win32-126.96.36.199-py27.exe/download
Copy the folders associated with the wxPython module to the site-packages directory of WinPython: WinPython-OpenSesame-0.27.3\python-2.7.3\Lib\site-packages
Some miscellaneous notes:
There is a terminal in Windows, but it's called the 'Command Prompt'. Click the start button, type
cmdin the search bar and hit Enter. Alternatively, go to Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> Command Prompt
Copy-pasting all folders and files associated with a module sometimes works, but do realize that the contents of those files and folders is specific for the Python installation it was installed in. This means that if you copy-paste a module from a 64-bit Python 2.6, the module will most likely not work on a 32-bit Python 2.7. Also, if you do use the module copying approach, it's best to not copy your files to the OpenSesame main directory, but to the site-packages directory of the Python installation that you are using to run OpenSesame.
Thanks for your help! But unfortunately copying the files for wx over did not work for me either, even with a new installation of wxPython , WinPython, and Python 2.7.5 It didn't fail with the same import error pop-up as before this time, but I waited for a long time and nothing happened at that stage in the experiment, and in the debug window there was the same message about avilbin.dll not loading. So if it did work somehow it seemed to cause the system to hang.
Instead I am just going to use a workaround of running OpenSesame in a window and having them type their response in a separate text editor, but if there are any updates that might fix this I would love to know!
I am new to OpenSesame and I want to run an experiment via OpenSesame Portable version 0.27.2.
I wonder whether it is possible to run video files as stimuli. If yes, how? Or do I have to add additional libraries to the Portable Python package?
To play back video in OpenSesame, you require a plug-in. The two main plug-ins are the
media_player_vlcand the newer
media_player_gst, which differ primarily in the underlying library that is used for video playback. I don't believe that either of these plug-ins is included with the Python-portable distribution of OpenSesame, but the
media_player_vlcis bundled with the official distribution, which you can get from the main downloads page.
Alternatively, you can download the Python-portable distribution of OpenSesame and install the
media_player_gstplug-in yourself. The installation procedure is described here:
Hi, I've been trying to get the 2.8.1 package working on WinXP, with little luck...
EDIT: I have now solved this Leaving the problem and solution here in case it's of use to anyone else.
(1) there's a typo in the .bat file (path hasn't been updated to opensesame-2.8.1): this is easily fixed.
solution 1 edit the .bat file as suggested above
(2) however, with the fix in place, I'm getting the following:
I'm not really a windows person and I'm not sure what I need to do to fix this. Can anyone offer any suggestions?
solution 2 to run OpenSesame portable on WinXP you probably need to install the Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable Package: See here for details and links. Obviously that reduces its "portability" a little, but at least it works
Thanks Edwin for making this package available!